tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2843708975728256660.post4975649359626933794..comments2023-04-02T00:35:03.520+11:00Comments on Progression: National Day of Thanksgiving InsultingADHD Librarianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08161222584844304238noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2843708975728256660.post-53173422106818053642007-05-28T21:31:00.000+10:002007-05-28T21:31:00.000+10:00The thing i forgot to put at the end of my post, w...The thing i forgot to put at the end of my post, was a reiteration of the idea that this blog is not about the canon position of Progression, rather it is a sounding board so that many Christians, with disparate views on things political, can bounce ideas off each other and decide on a position about social issues which reflect the social justice message of Jesus.<BR/><BR/>Therefore I don't expect to agree with every point of view put forward. lets face it, those of you who have debated me on any issue are well aware that I don't always support my own stated position, I just want to argue so i can understand as much of the issue as possible.ADHD Librarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161222584844304238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2843708975728256660.post-2476424078229219392007-05-28T21:23:00.000+10:002007-05-28T21:23:00.000+10:00Marcus,I'm going to come out in support of you in ...Marcus,<BR/>I'm going to come out in support of you in this one. I think there is a bit of a scatter gun approach to the issue at hand in the article and, given the vast number of 'days' we celebrate in Australia (red nose, daffodil, May, Sorry, Moose bite victim's day...) there are always going to be overlaps. That is no big deal to me.<BR/><BR/>The issue that I take from this article though is that the Christian Church (along with most of mainstream Australia) needs to do more to ensure that indigenous Australians are not treated as second class citizens.<BR/><BR/>Now, being as I've been in Alice Springs for the past four years I've seen more of this issue than most of my latte drinking lefty comrades and I wouldn't know where the hell to start when it comes to this issue, but Churches could certainly raise awareness of the problems from the pulpit. And churches are well placed to look at it from a social justice position, rather than the stupid racist tainted sensationalist crap that most people see on ACA or Today Tonight.ADHD Librarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161222584844304238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2843708975728256660.post-14196556973645616812007-05-28T19:40:00.000+10:002007-05-28T19:40:00.000+10:00want to add too that I didn't realise NDOT was abo...want to add too that I didn't realise NDOT was about Pentecost too...good to have that side of the debate as well.Emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01356236092406857557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2843708975728256660.post-13158098160344488792007-05-28T19:16:00.000+10:002007-05-28T19:16:00.000+10:00"I assume there are some Christian groups who are ..."I assume there are some Christian groups who are proactively supporting Sorry Day in some form, are there?"<BR/><BR/>Isn't it a bit much that we don't know and have to ask?<BR/><BR/>I'd be interested to hear from Christians who do actively support Sorry Day - what do you think?<BR/><BR/>btw "Once again I don't really understand why the focus of this blog is what other Christians or Christian groups are doing wrong!" I think if you read my preface this is an article written by a Progression member, and I asked for opinions. The point of the blog is discussion, as is the point of most blogs. Discussion about how Christianity and politics work together, how we are doing things wrong as well as how we are doing things right. And it seems we are in dicussion, so it's worked!Emmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01356236092406857557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2843708975728256660.post-85537521564146452612007-05-28T17:18:00.000+10:002007-05-28T17:18:00.000+10:00Or instead of a conspiracy it could be just coinci...Or instead of a conspiracy it could be just coincidence??<BR/><BR/>In 1998 Sorry Day began and it was decided to hold it on May 26th each year. The day before the anniversary of indigenous people gaining the vote.<BR/><BR/>In 2003 "It was decided to hold a National Day of Thanksgiving on the Saturday of Pentecost weekend each year and to seek to have the day included in our national calendar." This year Pentecost weekend included Saturday the 26th May.<BR/><BR/>So it looks like a significant day for both the indigenous people of Australia and many Christian groups just happened to fall on the same day. Certainly not a deliberate sabotage. Unless of course those people who determined in 2003 to have it on the weekend of pentecost did their calculations and said when will these two dates coincide let's do it then...not sure about that??<BR/><BR/>So who has more right to continue on?? I think the statement "But it's a con. It's a diversion and a deliberate sabotage of one of the years most significant times for Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders (ATSI) communities." is a bit out of line isn't it? The weekend of Pentecost has been around for a lot longer than "Sorry Day" and certainly has significance around the world for a large number of Christians.<BR/><BR/>"And it also should be a time of deep remorse, reconciliation and commitment by all Australians, for apologies and action." So true. It should be, but the heritage of Pentcost weekend must also be acknowledged I believe. Both are significant occasions for different groups of people.<BR/><BR/>Once again I don't really understand why the focus of this blog is what other Christians or Christian groups are doing wrong! Why not focus on what Christians can do or are doing to make "Sorry Day" an even bigger success next year. Why not write an article praising Christian efforts in reconciliation and encouraging more people to do the like? I assume there are some Christian groups who are proactively supporting Sorry Day in some form, are there?Marcus Claxtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05999993724200334339noreply@blogger.com